tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19722540.post3136471680570194703..comments2023-09-09T07:28:35.681-04:00Comments on Science and Religion: A View from an Evolutionary Creationist: Did the Texas SBOE Trick Itself?Jimpithecushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10143519573877156940noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19722540.post-7042140431830697912011-05-30T12:46:00.402-04:002011-05-30T12:46:00.402-04:00Anonymous, I don't confuse the two terms, but...Anonymous, I don't confuse the two terms, but lack of appropriate resolution in the post may have made that unclear. I do not use the term “Darwinism” simply because it has such a pejorative use. Your average evolutionary biologist would never call him/herself a “Darwinist.” The thing about evolutionary creationism (a term I have embraced since this post, by the way) is that it compartmentalizes science in such a way that religion is irrelevant. <br /><br />While it might strike one that this is cognitive dissonance, it is not. It simply suggests that there might be proximate causes for things and ultimate causes for things. Science is capable of addressing the former but not the latter. <br /><br />Why this is not the same methodology employed by folks that support young earth creationism is that for them, science is forced to adhere to a particular scriptural interpretation. In EC, the scientific enterprise is encouraged to find what it finds. Since those of us that subscribe to EC believe that this is God's vast creation, this presents no problem whatsoever. We are quite happy to let science go where it goes. <br /><br />I was just in the Grand Canyon bookstore and came across Tom Vail's <i>The Grand Canyon: A Different View</i>, a YEC book. I picked it up and read a page at random. It had five main points on the page for considering the young age of the canyon. Four of them were outright fabrications and one of them was completely unsupported by any literature. I put the book down in disgust. It was completely intellectually dishonest.<br /><br />I am perfectly in agreement that religion needs to be left out of science. That does not mean that God does not exist.Jimpithecushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10143519573877156940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19722540.post-42568413152700999722011-05-24T17:59:55.337-04:002011-05-24T17:59:55.337-04:00Thanks Jim. We don't do supernatural events in...Thanks Jim. We don't do supernatural events in science<br />for obvious reasons. Its easy to plug miracles into things one can't figure out.Worked for mankind for thousands of years.<br /><br />Facts are facts and faith is faith.<br />You confuse evolution and darwinism. darwinism is a term used by religious groups to describe anyone who doesn't agree <br />that God acted in supernatural ways in geologic history. When you use the term Darwinist or drawinism, you tip the reader off that you're pushing your religious views into science. Wonder why Buddhists and Hindus don't have these fundamentalism hangups with regards to science. Theistic evolution, creationist, intelligent design all the same. <br />The person ascribing that term to themself is a scientific illiterate confused about religion and logical observation of nature.<br />Please, take some science courses at an accreditted university.And no further discussion is necessary because you are quite confused.<br />Thanks Will<br />Please, keep religion out of science.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19722540.post-53853268167923714372009-03-31T17:43:00.000-04:002009-03-31T17:43:00.000-04:00An evolutionary creationist (or theistic evolution...An evolutionary creationist (or theistic evolutionist) is one who believes in God but is convinced that God acted through the evolutionary process throughout deep time. I prefer theistic evolutionist simply because it avoids the word "creationist," and I can't come up with anything as catchy as "cdesignproponentsists."Jimpithecushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10143519573877156940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19722540.post-62983444781235860352009-03-30T20:06:00.000-04:002009-03-30T20:06:00.000-04:00Good article but WTF is an evolutionary creationis...Good article but WTF is an evolutionary creationist? Those two words don't belong in the same sentence.bobxxxxnoreply@blogger.com