tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19722540.post1045524981338631280..comments2023-09-09T07:28:35.681-04:00Comments on Science and Religion: A View from an Evolutionary Creationist: The Poisonous Attitude of AiG: Nathan Ham Defends His FatherJimpithecushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10143519573877156940noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19722540.post-86509943854375992872011-11-27T12:05:28.964-05:002011-11-27T12:05:28.964-05:00Nathan Ham was the pastor of my church up until ab...Nathan Ham was the pastor of my church up until about two months ago, he came storming in fired up and ready to go teach the word of god. That last all of the first Sunday. Within two months he returned from his vacation (Paid for by the church) and informed us that he would be leaving to follow god's plans for him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19722540.post-83478227399645920612011-03-30T12:07:42.669-04:002011-03-30T12:07:42.669-04:00"Ham and Hamlet" That's really funn..."Ham and Hamlet" That's really funny. Thanks. Still laughing.Jimpithecushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10143519573877156940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19722540.post-14033421219913345022011-03-29T15:08:36.890-04:002011-03-29T15:08:36.890-04:00"Ham and son" - won't that be Ham an..."Ham and son" - won't that be Ham and Hamlet? :)<br /><br />Jokes aside, I think there is a direct correlation between decibel and vitriol level, and how far the individual has moved on the following trajectory:<br /><br />Issue - Cause - Ministry - Culture War. <br /><br />I'm also sure you can find some correlation with the amount of $$ involved.<br /><br />Yes, I'm cynical. This has nothing to do with honest debate or even honest concern anymore.The Singular Observerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12427638663514348421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19722540.post-42398667263458823612011-03-27T17:49:59.912-04:002011-03-27T17:49:59.912-04:00Matthew, Karl Giberson and others (Webmonk comes ...Matthew, Karl Giberson and others (Webmonk comes to mind) have pointed out to no avail that the modern-day flood geological movement has its basis in the visions of Seventh-Day Adventist “prophetess” Ellen G. White. By the end of the 19th century, among professional and lay geologists, flood geology was a dead issue. I doubt many evangelical Christians know this.Jimpithecushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10143519573877156940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19722540.post-71259647311335287722011-03-27T17:44:09.966-04:002011-03-27T17:44:09.966-04:00Anonymous, you are right. Ken Ham did not get thi...Anonymous, you are right. Ken Ham did not get this pompous and unbearable overnight. It started ramping up when AiG became a multimillion dollar multimedia industry. Then the self-importance asserted itself.Jimpithecushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10143519573877156940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19722540.post-34721126789737390852011-03-27T17:35:37.321-04:002011-03-27T17:35:37.321-04:00Yes, AiG is drifting into RIAA and Right Haven ter...Yes, AiG is drifting into RIAA and Right Haven territory.Jimpithecushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10143519573877156940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19722540.post-59376490529021119912011-03-26T16:25:30.193-04:002011-03-26T16:25:30.193-04:00Huh. Waaay back when I was in high school, Ken Ha...Huh. Waaay back when I was in high school, Ken Hamm came to my (very large) church to speak on creationism. He brought his kids, and I was tasked with watching over one of his sons for a couple hours (though I'm not sure it was Nathan). At the time he struck me as pretty shy and meek. Time does things to a man, I suppose.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19722540.post-38196715447601343902011-03-26T00:21:04.986-04:002011-03-26T00:21:04.986-04:00I really wish Christians knew more about the leade...I really wish Christians knew more about the leaders of the movements they follow. Rob Bell sparks hatred for asking if God maybe has more love and grace than we are willing to concede, yet Ken Ham's vitriole is somehow hidden from the eyes of the church. It simply makes no sense to me.Matthewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18029046130272045007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19722540.post-8992264470139574112011-03-25T23:09:32.453-04:002011-03-25T23:09:32.453-04:00It's worse than you think. Ham and Son Inc. ar...It's worse than you think. Ham and Son Inc. aren't merely calling people idolatrous, fornicating, free-love hippies for not believing the YEC interpretation of the Bible, but they are calling them that because they aren't having AiG give the talk at the conference!!!<br /><br />The conference replaced Ham with Safarti, a person who is just as fervently YEC as Ham.<br /><br />So, according to Ham et al, to avoid being a fornicating, idolatrous, free-love, Bible-rejecting hippie, you not only have to be a YEC, <b>but you need to be an AiG organization YEC!</b><br /><br />Yup, that's right. Merely being YEC isn't enough, you have to be AIG YEC! Otherwise you're no better than Safarti - an idolatrous, fornicating, etc, etc, etc.<br /><br />AiG has been a notch above Disney lawyers until now. I think they've just managed to sink to levels of scum that is below even Disney lawyers.WebMonknoreply@blogger.com