tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19722540.post7869651180879384044..comments2023-09-09T07:28:35.681-04:00Comments on Science and Religion: A View from an Evolutionary Creationist: Recap: The Denver RATE ConferenceJimpithecushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10143519573877156940noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19722540.post-82081506857689154482009-06-11T00:41:23.279-04:002009-06-11T00:41:23.279-04:00Irenicum, I do not know the name Dennis Petersen, ...Irenicum, I do not know the name Dennis Petersen, but I will look into him as soon as I am able. I also think that the YEC worldview needs upending. I tend to agree with the person who said that we drive more people away from the faith with the YEC nonsense than we attract.Jimpithecushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10143519573877156940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19722540.post-85287346748357226692009-06-10T22:49:39.813-04:002009-06-10T22:49:39.813-04:00I almost forgot! Do you have anything on Dennis Pe...I almost forgot! Do you have anything on Dennis Petersen? A customer brought his big glossy Unlocking the Mysteries of Creation book to our store for us to consider carrying it. In talking to her and glancing at the few pages I did, I could tell it was a YEC book. Afterwards I told a coworker that I decided to hold my tongue and just nod and smile. Some battles are unwinnable from the first breath. The sad thing is, I know the customer and she's a wonderful Christian. She even read Francis Collins Language of God book but returned it afterwards saying that she couldn't recommend it for the church library. Aargh! Anyway, thanks again and God bless!Irenicumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13409091214695782381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19722540.post-73480397917157902952009-06-10T22:39:29.658-04:002009-06-10T22:39:29.658-04:00Jim, Thanks for this post. It's enlightening a...Jim, Thanks for this post. It's enlightening and depressing all at once! But if we're Christians concerned with shedding light and turning back darkness, then we need to continue to do the work of exposing charlatans like these people to the light of day. Just this afternoon I was telling a young coworker that YEC is inherently destructive of true faith, since when these young people go to HS or college they will have their worldview conpletely upended. Now you adn I would both agree that a good deal of their worldview needs to be upended. But the risk of course is that they will walk away from Christian faith because they think to be Christian is also to be a YEC. Thankfully there are more reasonable evangelicals coming along nowadays who understand that real science is not a threat to faith, but is a wonderful bulwark to it. But it takes work with a steady hand. Keep shedding light into the darkness!Irenicumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13409091214695782381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19722540.post-18059866443417328482009-06-10T15:42:01.272-04:002009-06-10T15:42:01.272-04:00You are correct. I only ran accross it in respons...You are correct. I only ran accross it in response to a creationist meeting on a post and made an unwarranted generalization. See, for example, <a href="http://austringer.net/wp/index.php/2006/10/21/a-small-howlerfest/" rel="nofollow">this</a>. It is probably a page like this that threw me off. Thanks for setting me straight!Jimpithecushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10143519573877156940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19722540.post-30402484882947288302009-06-10T15:14:54.734-04:002009-06-10T15:14:54.734-04:00Groups like TalkOrigins refer to these creationist...<i>Groups like TalkOrigins refer to these creationist conferences as "Howlerfests."</i><br /><br />Um, TO regulars refer to <i>their own</i> get-togethers as "howlerfests." See, for example, <a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=&as_epq=howlerfest&as_oq=&as_eq=&num=10&lr=&as_filetype=&ft=i&as_sitesearch=&as_qdr=all&as_rights=&as_occt=any&cr=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&safe=images" rel="nofollow">the first page of hits here</a>.RBHhttp://www.pandasthumb.orgnoreply@blogger.com